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EvanG wrote:The fact is that people who do not eat meat and drink milk in the US are and will be perceived as weird and self-righteous. ...
Some people here simply do not want to be associated with the rather large number of preachy, grease-fuelled cupcake-pushers who currently populate the vegan movement.
Thrasymachus wrote:Norm wrote: I've known probably a dozen vegans over the years, including the ones I know now. All of them ate/eat an abundance of overly processed foods and junk foods. ...
That sounds even less plausible. To have known a dozen vegans implies a huge social network, which is what Americans lack. Out of every 100 people you meet, likely only one will be of the tiny vegan minority, which implies a social network of 120 or more people,
I don't believe I made any pretense of being an expert. I have been very clear that my opinion is based entirely on my own very limited experience with vegans. You're the one who's saying my experience with vegans is so huge it's not plausible. I've said all along it's a small sampling.Thrasymachus wrote: So it makes it hard to believe when you act like an expert on the diet of vegans because of 12 vegans you say you know
Thrasymachus wrote: Rather I think this is the case of jumping on the vegan bashing bandwagon and meme seen often on this forum, which is particularly strong in this thread.
Elvin wrote:BlueHeron wrote:FYI: "Vegetarian" doesn't derive from "vegetable." It derives from "vegetus," which means lively or vigorous.
from http://www.etymonline.com :
vegetable (adj.)
c.1400, "living and growing as a plant," from O.Fr. vegetable "living, fit to live," from M.L. vegetabilis "growing, flourishing," from L.L. vegetabilis "animating, enlivening," from L. vegetare "to enliven," from vegetus "vigorous, active," from vegere "to be alive, active, to quicken," from PIE *weg- "be strong, lively," related to watch (v.), vigor, velocity, and possibly witch (see vigil). The meaning "resembling that of a vegetable, dull, uneventful" is attested from 1854 (see vegetable (n.)).
vegetarian (n.)
1839, irregular formation from vegetable (n.) + -arian, as in agrarian, etc. "The general use of the word appears to have been largely due to the formation of the Vegetarian Society in Ramsgate in 1847" [OED].
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