Buns Again

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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:34 am

Hey Trinity! Thanks for the drop-by.

This place used to be hoppin, I'll tell you. When Letha and Debbie used to post regularly. Naomi. Kelly. :) PinkRose, Norm. It's much quieter these days.

I saw in your journal that you've been at this for 10 years. I'm about 13 years into it, but should only count 12 since this past year I have not done well at all with many of the guidelines. Cheese and oil especially have crept back in, and I even had a stretch where chicken was just...I was eating it probably once or twice a week. SMH And fried, at that. Holy moley. What was I thinking.

But I stopped that, and lately I have NOT had cheese but that was a thing for a while, too. Then I realized that I was adding to my fat burden, if that makes sense. Similar to how you can eat the core of an apple, even though the seeds have toxins...but if you ate a lot of those seeds, it would all add up until eventually your system would be overloaded. Or someone who develops an allergy. The first time it's hives, second time you might feel a tingle in your mouth along with the hives. But it's building up in your body so the third time hits you really hard and you go into anaphylaxis. Your body just couldn't handle one more little smidgen of that allergen. Eating foods with a lot of fat just adds to the fat burden in my tissues, right? It wasn't like I was eating that stuff every day, not at all. But every time I did, I was adding to the burden.

Anyway, I got away from that stupidity and eliminated between meal snacking and continued with my regular and stable practice of eating good solid McDougall worthy meals (Even when I was stopping for KFC it was a snack, and I was eating good solid fat free, low protein starch-based meals) and now I am eating three meals a day, half starch and half non-starchy vegs until satiated. Finding myself feeling satiated with less food nowadays, too.

Exercise. I love LOVE the gym. The endorphin rush from peaking out your heart rate is AMAZING. The quad extensions and leg presses that the PT told me to do are very helpful...BUT. If I overdo in other areas, such as too much walking, this tweaks my knee, which then I rest my knee for a few days, which then triggers my Lazy Couch Potato and inertia and such...

so recently when my grandson visited two afternoons in a row and we went on long walks (heh...to the end of the street and back, tbh) well, my knee didn't like that and I was pretty much resting it for at least a week. And I started doing qi gong because I can put that on YouTube at home and I love LOVE LOVE qi gong. It's energy is similar to yoga energy. Not as WOOO HOOOOOO! rush as a high heart rate from cardio at the gym (which I will get back to) but it's a clear-headed, action packed energy. So...both. The gym two or three times a week, and qi gong the other days, so I am still exercising every day. :nod:

That and the sensible three square starch centered meals per day...well what's not to love. The energy from both this excellent food, and the excellent exercise...yah babay!
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:48 am

MENU PLAN

Got my copy of SS out and went to the 7 Day Start Up on p. 212. Because I'm not doing it on my own. I need someone to tell me what to eat for each meal to shake myself out of this stupidity.

Anyway, I'm not going to fix every recipe for all three meals, all seven days. I will only be fixing food for one and if I make a big pot of Tunisian Sweet Potato Stew, it will last me for several meals, which I've slotted into the menu planner. I'll be "officially starting" tomorrow for brekkie, but plan on being sane today. Saturdays and Sundays are good days for big batch cooking, so I'll shop on Sat morning, and cook Sat afternoon and Sunday.

SATURDAY
B: Overnight cereal p221
L: Tomato Toast
D: Tunisian Sw. Pot Stew over rice p. 277

SUNDAY
B: Veggies Benedict p. 230 (make extra sauce)
L: Tunisian Sw. Pot Stew
D: Brown rice; romanesco; LO Veg Ben Sauce

MONDAY
B: G BOMB
L: Nacho Style
D: Bean Soup over baked Pot w, spinach (thaw from last week's big batch cooking)

TUESDAY
B: Tomato Toast
L: Tunisian Sw Pot Stew
D: Packaged kale salad; baked pot w. salsa

WEDNESDAY
B: G BOMB
L: Bean Soup w. spinach; rice
D: Polenta w. black beans and mango salsa p. 286

THURSDAY
B: Grape nuts w. chopped apple; oat milk
L: LO yesterday's dinner
D: Festive Dal Soup P.269

FRIDAY
B: Baked Oatmeal
L: Festive Dal Soup
D: Polenta LO w. black beans/salsa

SHOPPING LIST

For the Veggies Benedict
Cashews (to make cashew milke)
mushrooms,
English muffins,
avocado?
For the Tunisian Stew
Jalapenos
Sweet potatoes (?)
fresh green beans
For the Polenta & Black Beans
Polenta
Red & yellow bell peppers
For the Festive Dal Soup
sambal oelek
fresh leafy greens ? (frozen spinach?)

I need to check my pantry for potatoes and sweet potatoes. Also black beans. I have dried black beans so maybe I'll get those started cooking today and not have to buy canned. Checking for canned tomatoes, too.

Today I plan on tossing the stupid stuff...chocolate covered espresso beans; leftover Mexican from last night's dining out; rice crackers from the Asian market in town...etc. Unfortunately I won't be able to toss the Pecan Sandies, Fudge Stripes, Peanut butter pretzels, cheezits, baked lays, etc that my hubby keeps around. But I'll just follow his advice, which kind of is my mantra when I remember it "Just don't eat it"

I also got out my ancient edition of MWL with young Dr. M in a white coat behind a display of abundant fruits and veggies on the front cover ;) and might look through it. But what I needed was a pre-planned menu so I don't have to think too much. I needed something to tell me "This is for breakfast. This is for lunch. This is for dinner" and that's what The Starch Solution has. It's time to quit mucking about. Time to start turning this ship around.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:44 am

Monday lunch I had sweet potato and Fibonacci Broccoli planned, but ended up using some of the LO sauce from yesterday's brekkie as a cheese sauce over nachos: baked tort chips, fat free refried, salsa, a few sliced olives, and not-cheese-sauce. Really stuff my stomach though...I let myself get too hungry and then just ate until it was gone. I could've prepared half the portion and been satiated.

Other than that change, I'm following the menu plan. Even this unplanned lunch is 100% on plan. Next time, stop when satiated. ;) Might not need dinner. Oof.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby squealcat » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:11 pm

Buns, I just posted about my day and then reading your post I feel like we are in the same boat ! I, also got too hungry , waited too long then ate too much ! I, also cracked open my SS book for ideas. I feel like I need something tasty but easy to fix. I don't want to have real rich foods (triggers for me) but just some sauces and some bread once in a while and maybe avocado or tofu once in a while.

I am pretty attached to steal cut oats in the morning with fruit and a big salad at lunch with something else like soup. For dinner, I am ready for a little something different and fruit for dessert.

Anyway, today I waited too long to eat and that was a mistake.

I hope your eating plan works for you! Have a great week !

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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:59 am

squealcat wrote:Buns, I just posted about my day and then reading your post I feel like we are in the same boat ! I, also got too hungry , waited too long then ate too much ! I, also cracked open my SS book for ideas. I feel like I need something tasty but easy to fix. I don't want to have real rich foods (triggers for me) but just some sauces and some bread once in a while and maybe avocado or tofu once in a while.

I am pretty attached to steal cut oats in the morning with fruit and a big salad at lunch with something else like soup. For dinner, I am ready for a little something different and fruit for dessert.

Anyway, today I waited too long to eat and that was a mistake.

I hope your eating plan works for you! Have a great week !

-squealcat


Hey Cat!

Yep, that sounds like me. I needed some inspiration to take me back to seriously following the plan. SS did it for me. Other than the nachos yesterday I've followed what I planned last Friday. The main thing is, choosing THESE foods. Choosing NOT those non-foods LOL

And yes, it seems to be working. I started this menu plan on Saturday and this morning the scale has moved down 3 lbs. I'm sure there's some water/salt weight there, but it's the first downward movement of the scale that I've seen in a while. I'll get next week's menu written up in the next day or two.

We're going to Wendover on Friday night, and coming home on Saturday. I live in Utah, and Wendover is a small town that straddles the UT/NV border. IOW, when Utahns want a quick vacation away, drive two hours due West on I-80 and visit a casino resort LOL. Well, it'll be three or four meals on the road so I've got to be careful. We'll eat at buffets and I'm pretty good at choosing on plan foods in buffet settings. I might nuke some potatoes to bring along, just in case.

TBH, I'm not thrilled. Gambling turns me off. It will be nice to get away but...meh. Casino Caschmino who cares. Maybe I'll dip my feet in the pool while Wylie plays the slots.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby Ruff » Wed Jun 08, 2022 3:05 pm

hi Buns, me again Katie/Ruff. Can I help in any way? It seems you have strayed quite a bit, and honestly, over the 12 years I have McDougalled, so have I. Mostly vegan baking in my case...but I'm good at baking... :lol: But its so important to get back on track again as soon as possible.

When I have had to restart a couple of things have helped.
1. I can eat as much as I like, when I like, as long as it is on plan. (1st week)
By the end of the week I am usually feeling so much better (honestly sugar does not agree with me giving me flu like symptoms and oil makes my hands hurt so by the end of the week these things have gone again).

2. 2nd week, cut out a snack or two if possible. Replace compliant snacks with fresh fruit.

3. usually back on by track now, so generally all is good, plenty of fresh veg, starches and the occasional complaint treat (Joel furhmans apricot slice being a good one for me).

That first week of eat when and when you want as long as its complaint usually gets me over the hump. And if it doesn't I resort to a 3 day potato hack!

Good luck with your restart and I will try and hang around and cheer you on.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:06 pm

Ruff wrote:hi Buns, me again Katie/Ruff. Can I help in any way? It seems you have strayed quite a bit, and honestly, over the 12 years I have McDougalled, so have I. Mostly vegan baking in my case...but I'm good at baking... :lol: But its so important to get back on track again as soon as possible.

When I have had to restart a couple of things have helped.
1. I can eat as much as I like, when I like, as long as it is on plan. (1st week)
By the end of the week I am usually feeling so much better (honestly sugar does not agree with me giving me flu like symptoms and oil makes my hands hurt so by the end of the week these things have gone again).

2. 2nd week, cut out a snack or two if possible. Replace compliant snacks with fresh fruit.

3. usually back on by track now, so generally all is good, plenty of fresh veg, starches and the occasional complaint treat (Joel furhmans apricot slice being a good one for me).

That first week of eat when and when you want as long as its complaint usually gets me over the hump. And if it doesn't I resort to a 3 day potato hack!

Good luck with your restart and I will try and hang around and cheer you on.


HI Katie! Thanks for stopping by. I haven't gotten in here for quite a while.

You got that right...strayed. It got pretty bad for many weeks. Still hitting the gym regularly, but my snacking was out of control. Still whole food, still vegan, but dang wouldn't you know it, a pound of pistachios over two days slows your weight loss :lol: and of course my favorite "health food": Chocolate hahahahaha

Currently the snacking is going really well, and I cut chocolate out altogether (except today and there's EXTREMELY good reason for it) (more later) and watched my weight go down a few pounds in two weeks. Jeans fitting a little bit better, etc.

I'm with you on the oils. I was commenting to my husband about my feet not hurting like they used to...well, when they were doing so badly I wasn't watching oils at all and then when I did cut them out (my sister's hypercholesterolemia diagnosis in 2019? ish?) I was able to walk around the block, around many blocks, a mile to the library and back, and so forth. No problem. So yeah, cutting the oils is HUGE. And I'm getting sugars down nicely, but not fully eliminated.

Again, thanks for commenting. I haven't been participating here, but the past few weeks I've actually been really good about staying on plan. It feels good.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:01 pm

Well kids, I've been away a while, mostly because I couldn't report on anything but my own inability to stay on plan. I'm still not doing perfect, but I am doing SO much better than I was.

Making meal plans and menus got boring really fast, but I did make a list of favorite recipes and have discovered that kale salad with Very Benevolent Caesar Dressing on it is pretty dang good, actually. So I'm doing a lot of that for front loading. Add some garbanzos, and it's a full meal, eh?

Also just enjoying starches with or without sauces, with or without veggies. And I've dropped a nice amount. Probably 10 lbs in May? Maybe. I don't trust my bathroom scale, ever since stepping on the scale at the dr office and finding it 10 lbs LOWER than my morning weigh in. But I'll take it, you know? If the Dr's office scale isn't more accurate than my ancient bathroom scale, I don't know what is.

So, why was I at the dr? Because I am getting ready for a knee replacement. I hurt my left knee last July. Like, crying in pain. Unable to bear weight. In the process of diagnosing that (torn meniscus, inoperable) they found extreme arthritis in both knees, but worse in my left knee. And after some time hobbling around with a cane, mastering the placement of KT tape to help support the knee, and basically reducing my activity over the months since the injury, I finally said "Gonna do it. So what if knee replacement is an old person thing? If I can gain relief from ongoing pain, and if I can walk when it's over, then why should I wait? I'm not getting any younger."

And the surgery is set for June 28, I'm working on getting myself set up for Medical Leave, big batching favorite recipes and freezing individual portions, and basically trying to prepare so that I'll have foods that I want/need afterwards. Also eating quite a bit of kale for its protein and other nutrients but may bump the beans as I get closer to the date, and shortly afterwards simply because our body does use protein to rebuild.

It will only be one night in the hospital and they'll have me on my feet as soon as I'm out of recovery. They will make sure I'm okay for weight bearing and will have me go up and down stairs etc then send me home. I'm requesting four weeks off from work. I'm a little nervous about going under, but looking at pictures from this time last year and seeing the little buck that I found in our nearby river walkway, or the spring blossoms on all the trees, and the lovely sunrises, the wonderful little libraries here and there...I miss walking and I'm REALLY looking forward to getting out and doing that once again.

More later. Because doesn't life come at you in clumps...
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:39 pm

In other news, my mom was scammed out of $50,000 last week. Mind you, I rent my mom's basement, and I work from home, and she is retired, and Wylie is retired, so we essentially have an old lady and two middle aged adults living under the same roof and home pretty much most of the time, though she does have a nice social life that gets her out of the house occasionally, and she got a phone call on Tuesday from "her granddaughter" ... which one? she asked because she has five granddaughters... "her oldest granddaughter" said the caller *never saying a name* until my mom GAVE them her oldest granddaughter's name (My daughter Abbie) ... and "fake Abbie" was in jail and in a lot of trouble because she'd been in an accident and she needed cash right away for bail and please don't tell my mom, I will tell mom all about it.

So my mom went quietly to the bank and withdrew $6000 then put it in a padded envelope, and went to UPS and mailed it. She told them it was medical documents when asked the contents of the package. That was Tuesday.

On Wednesday the "bail bondsman" needed more money so my mom quietly went to the bank (a different branch because she didn't want to be questioned) and withdrew $8000. Repeat the UPS action. Then the bail bondsman was setting up an attorney and more cash would be needed so on Thursday she quietly went to the bank AGAIN and withdrew $8500 and this time it was FedEx and I'm sure she told them something about documents. And finally on Friday, when they called her ON HER CELL PHONE, while she was doing volunteer work, and told her more money was needed. $27,000...she left her volunteer gig and quietly went to the bank and withdrew the money AND THE BANK ASKED HER "may we inquire what the money is for?" (because the branch manager had to approve the amount because it was twenty-seven THOUSAND dollars) and she said "No, you may not ask what I am using the money for" ... and she went to FedEx again, and shipped a huge amount of cash. Again.

and THEN the bank alerted my brother, whose name is also on that account, letting him know that the account was flagged.

He felt bad because he was supposed to be helping with her finances but we were RIGHT HERE under her NOSE and we didn't catch it. My husband even saw the call come in, as it flashes across the TV screen.

we live in SLC, UT. why did she answer a call that came in from Pennsylvania? And why on earth did she not tell me, the mother of the JAILED DAUGHTER? and why did she not call the HUSBAND of the jailed grandchild?

so we all had a lovely time over the weekend, trying not to be furious and freaked out constantly at each other, and today I spent an hour helping her set up an account, and found out that the bank doesn't have a system that alerts anyone when someone takes out a lot of money. But they do have an app where we can monitor the activity on her account. *sigh* Myself and my two siblings are going to have our signatures attached to the account. My husband thinks we should set it up so that two signatures are needed for all checks and all cash withdrawals. This would be a huge blow to her independence and no one really wants that, but what happens when the SS office calls her because there's some formerly unknown back pay that is due to the IRS and they're sending the police RIGHT NOW but they can help if she'll just send $250 via Western Union to pay our fee, they'll get the IRS and the police off your back.

My poor mom. She has said many times that she doesn't mind being old, but she doesn't want to be elderly because that envisions frailty and feebleness. And today she said "I think this is making me elderly" :( and I think I agree with her.

*sigh*
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Re: Buns Again

Postby Trinity » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:52 pm

Heidi, I’m so sorry. I’m so glad you’re back. Thanks for telling us how you’ve been doing. You and Wylie and your poor mom and family are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Re: Buns Again

Postby kirstykay » Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:39 pm

Hey Heidi!!!
I am so sorry about your poor mom!! My Dad got that exact call, but he has very little contact with any of his grandchildren, so he knew it wasn't real...but MAN!! That really sucks!

But, hey...it's nice to see you back here!! I just came back today, too!! We can cheer each other on!! I'll be praying for your knee surgery, too!
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Re: Buns Again

Postby Ejeff » Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:54 am

Heidi,

Sorry to hear about what happened to your Mom. It’s no consolation, but these despicable con artists are very skilled and they know exactly what to say.

Banks are so useless. Perhaps they could alert the other account name after ONE large withdrawal. Makes me angry thinking about how their policies are not helpful.

I hope you are all able to quickly put this behind you and not dwell on it. That’s not easy to do, but I wish that for all of you.

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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:26 am

Trinity wrote:Heidi, I’m so sorry. I’m so glad you’re back. Thanks for telling us how you’ve been doing. You and Wylie and your poor mom and family are in my thoughts and prayers.


Thanks Trinity.

A friend reminded me that for four days, my mom was incredibly stressed and super worried about "her granddaughter" which helped me not be quite so furious about some of it. But I must say I'm frustrated. Much prayer is needed because I'm about done with her stubborn refusal to educate herself and be forewarned about this stuff.

She is kicking herself about it, but she's also positive that she'll never fall for another scam again. SMH :mad: so why SHOULD she read up on scams and how to protect herself? UGH
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:37 am

kirstykay wrote:Hey Heidi!!!
I am so sorry about your poor mom!! My Dad got that exact call, but he has very little contact with any of his grandchildren, so he knew it wasn't real...but MAN!! That really sucks!

But, hey...it's nice to see you back here!! I just came back today, too!! We can cheer each other on!! I'll be praying for your knee surgery, too!
Kirsty


Hi Kirsty! LTNS girl!

It's really frustrating right now. She's feeling so stupid and of course we talk about it frequently but I want to help her for future attempts and she's just not interested in researching scams or looking into things even a little bit to educate herself. My sister says she'll get to it in her own time. Doesn't want to be told what to do. Of course she's right, but dang.

anyway, yah babay, let's get this show on the road. We can do this. :nod:
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Re: Buns Again

Postby bunsofaluminum » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:56 am

Ejeff wrote:Heidi,

Sorry to hear about what happened to your Mom. It’s no consolation, but these despicable con artists are very skilled and they know exactly what to say.

Banks are so useless. Perhaps they could alert the other account name after ONE large withdrawal. Makes me angry thinking about how their policies are not helpful.

I hope you are all able to quickly put this behind you and not dwell on it. That’s not easy to do, but I wish that for all of you.

Erin


Hi Erin,

I agree with you. I mean, taking $6500 out in cash, which she has never done EVER ??? why didn't that send up a red flag right there on day one. And they informed us yesterday when I asked if the new account could have a stop placed for anything over $1000.... they don't do that. WHYYYYYEEEEE?

I hope we can put it behind us quickly as well. It's not easy, living in the same house, but I have my sister who is objective and reminds all of us that there's no amount of stressing or fretting, no scolding or shouting that will make a difference. The money is gone, it is behind us, and what can we do to protect her in the future. This isn't the only "high alert! hair on fire! act immediately!" scam that's out there. I just hope she takes heed. Currently she's not open to finding out about what scams are out there or how to respond. SMH
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