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JeffN wrote:
Now, on occasion you may see me use one of the above terms here in this forums (though almost never vegan), as it is a simple way of using one word instead of 20 while communicating to someone I know who understands this. However, more often than not, I will respond to someone trying to learn this by saying, follow the recommended principles and guidelines.
This actually came up in the 10-Day program we just finished and we had a participant who kept asking what would be the best label.
After a few days I said, here it is, (which is really a compilation of my 5 principles)....
"I eat a diet that is based predominately on a variety of unprocessed and/or minimally processed fruits, vegetables, starchy vegetables, roots/tuber, intact whole grains and legumes that is lower in calorie density, fat and saturated fat and contains little to no added salt, sugar or oils and adapted to my unique personal situation."
Of course, that only describes the food and not the rest of the "lifestyle" factors that go along with it like not smoking, not drinking, getting adequate activity/exercise, maintaining a healthy weight, getting adequate rest/relaxation, adequate sleep and maintaining emotional poise and a positive outlook.
See the problem?
May years back, a client told me the way they answered the question which I thought was great. When asked the question he said, "there is no simple answer, but if you would really like to know, let's make some time in the next few days where we could sit down and spend an hour or so together, and I would be glad to discuss it with you."
He said, no one ever took him up on the offer.
When the first McDougall book came out, he called it a "health supporting" diet which I thought was great. Of course, it left out the rest of the lifestyle. And, today, everyone thinks their diet is health supporting.
If you were to ask me today, I would say, "I follow a healthy diet and lifestyle." Period.
It is just not a conversation I have, nor is it one I recommend others have.
Jeff
JeffN wrote:VegSeekingFit wrote:
Hi,
Have to say Thank you, Jeff --- pretty phenomenal post!!!
I am thinking that Trinity (sorry)! is doing exactly what is within the verbiage of following McD.... But clarification is so helpful for all of us following!!!
I don't want to hijack Trinity journal page, but will just say the following:
1) I am happy that we are all different ... makes the world more enriched... (like let's not be all ticky tacky boxes that are all the same)
2) I am in ABSOLUTE awe of folks that can follow the verbiage where Jeff says what we should eat ... (seriously!!!) --- ok -- jealous even!!!
3) I am not person in 2)
4) Probably shocking to nobody, I am super happy to follow MWL 10 PT. Checklist... If you follow MWL Checklist for a few weeks, it becomes ingrained in your brain and if nothing else -- you become cognizant of changes to make....
5) In actuality, I would bet anyone that I could readily gain back 50 lbs. if I went with the verbiage... but, I would be super hard-pressed to do (or even a lesser amount with a bigger amount of food) that if following MWL checklist (so I keep following this)...
Hope that everyone has an excellent day (and sorry, Trinity that I posted this on your page...)...
Cheers,
Stephanie
Hi Stephanie.
There have been lots of discussions over the years in these forums on how to accurately describe this diet since WFPB doesn't do it, especially for when trying to communicate it to others. Some have said low fat, starch based, some have said, low fat whole food starch based, etc, etc. All of them fall short.
(Here is the discussion... https://www.drmcdougallforums.com/viewt ... 22&t=54877 )
Saying the McDougall Diet or the McDougall MWL or the McDougall MWL 10 point checklist doesn’t do it either as no one knows what that means but us.
My verbiage is just a way to describe the McDougall MWL diet and 10 point checklist that covers most all of it. . Not that anyone ever has to use it or post it etc. Thats why we have the 10 point checklist
However, if someone is following the McDougall MWL 10 Point Checklist, then they are following my verbiage.
In Health
Jeff
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