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groundhoggpeggy wrote:
Any explanations out there?????
groundhoggpeggy wrote:Jeff... let me ask this... is this logical thinking on this???
1- pk. a day smokers have a xx% chance of getting lung disease.
1/2 pk. a day smokers have a xxx% chance of gettting that same lung disease.
Non-smokers have only x% chance of getting that disease.
So... to me, it looks like the message here is the same, except substitute meat for smokes.
Junky, meat-eatin' SAD folks get those cancers mentioned xx% of the time... oil and sugar-eatin' vegans, who are removed from SAD only by having no meat or dairy... have xxx%... and low-fat 100% compliant vegans have only x% chance.
This is what I feel I am seeing. Somethin' ain't right there! Know what I'm sayin'? In other words... is it healthier to have cheeseburgers and steaks with your potato chips and Twinkies? I mean, I'm going by such info from vegan authors as the quote above :
groundhoggpeggy wrote:Well, what I'm saying is that it seems that rather than a continuum of habits/health, from SAD on one end to lf vegan at the other... it seems to make a crazy jump, in some ways.
For instance... vegans get more of certain cancers (see above somewhere), etc....
So, rather than the score for some things looking like SAD-eaters, xxx% -- quasi vegans xx% -- full lf vegans only x% of some disease... it sometimes appears to be more erratic... something more like, SAD-eaters xx%, -- quasi vegan xxx% -- lf vegan x%... i.e., if you get messed up as a vegan, they tell you it's because you're not the right KIND of vegan, when in fact, it seems ANY kind of vegan ought to have somewhat improved health stats over SAD.
groundhoggpeggy wrote:Thanks for getting back with me, Jeff.
groundhoggpeggy wrote:I think I keep seeing a trend in reporting MORE cancer cases of certain types in the vegan population than in SAD...
groundhoggpeggy wrote:I've seen advice given to people who say they are having problems with the diet indicating that their only problem with the diet is that they are not restrictive enough... that every nut, drop of oil, refined grain, etc., hurts, and that is why they are not doing well, because they are not 100% all the time in every way.
groundhoggpeggy wrote:At the same time, I believe I am hearing that ..... vegan eating in general (not meaning potato chips and pop, but more like vegan with oils, etc.) should be better tahn SAd... yet some stats don't seem to support that.
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